Ryan Buell on "Paranormal State"
Friday May 16, 2008 8:28 AM
I talked with Ryan about certain aspects of the "Paranormal State" that are being hotly debated by viewers.
Emily: There is a religious aspect to the way in which the PRS does things — would you say that's accurate?
Ryan: I think that's accurate. There's always a spiritual or religious element to, I think, all of our cases.
Emily: What are the benefits of also having a pagan on board?
Ryan: Well... we also have many different religions... what all of that boils down to is diversity. Not diverse in the sense that "oh yeah, we're meeting a quota." For example, there have been times when Eilfie has had knowledge of things that I would never have known or have any thought to look for. With her being there and having her insight, it's really valuable. The thing about our show, concerning our investigative style, is that we try to resolve the case somehow and some way — we try to bring closure to the phenomenon or the client, mainly because our clients are really kind of frightened and they want a resolution. Obviously, EMF detectors and thermal cams and things can't really resolve a case. They can't really bring closure to a client unless they're just looking for validation. But our clients are looking to go back to a normal life. So what do we do? We pick up the spiritual aspect unless we feel that it's very psychological or something else and then we go that route... Having different spiritual belief systems allows us to cater to our clients. We really try to work within our clients' beliefs. If we were all Catholic, it would be kind of hard for us to do that.
Emily: Several times you've given a client a necklace depicting a saint. Is that something you do normally or only if you feel that a client needs some extra confidence or protection?
Ryan: I usually give St. Michael and St. Benedict, the Benedictine medal. I usually give those to Christian or Catholic clients... even non-Catholics, too. I usually do that if a client has made it known on or off camera they feel there is something dark or sinister there. For example, in the cemetery case, with the caretaker, you know, because of his religious upbringing he is a born-again Christian. He didn't really believe in spirits. He thought that all spiritual activity was a demonic force and if they claimed to be a spirit then they were just deceiving you. So he thought everything was demonic. I wasn't really sold on that theory but I gave him the Benedictine medal because it has a very powerful prayer against Satan on the back of it. I gave that to him because I knew where he was coming from... I gave it to a couple of other clients. I don't really give it out that much. Usually the client, they see me wearing the medallion, so, "Here's one for you if you want." It only has meaning if they give it meaning.
Emily: How receptive are clients to the religious tactics utilized by the PRS? You probably don't just go into a house and bless it; it's something a client asks for, right?
Ryan: There's only been a couple times where we felt the need for it for our own, I guess, personal benefit. In other words, we felt like there could definitely be something bad here... so let's say a prayer and ask for angelic intervention. Some paranormal investigators don't believe in the power of cleansing and sometimes performing a cleansing can actually increase the activity. I've always had that in mind whenever I've gone out to do those things. That's why we ask for their permission. There have definitely been times when they're indifferent about it, sometimes they've been like "OK, whatever" — they weren't really religious but we would say this is something we could do. For example, in the paranormal intervention episode, what you didn't see in that episode, we didn't just stop with Carol Anne, Carol Anne felt there was still the spirit of a woman there so we arranged for a Catholic priest to come and help us with a house blessing. We also did a little prayer for departed spirit who may or may not have committed suicide there. We couldn't verify that someone actually committed suicide in Carol Anne's home. We still entertained Carol Anne's feeling that there was a spirit there that was trapped... and we worked within the religious realm.
Emily: I think its safe to assume you're getting a lot of critiques from viewers about the way the PRS does things? Good and bad.
Ryan: I think it's a healthy dose. The PR campaign for the show was huge so we had a big audience paying attention to us... and whenever you bring in the religious element people get very, very — I don't know — they have something they have to say about it. I've listened to some of their critiques. A lot of them don't really make much sense. They say leave religion out of it. I say, well, you know, we're not here to just investigate, we're here trying to help these people and we're kind of clinical. We take a clinical approach to investigations. You see we bring in counselors and psychologists and sometimes medical experts — sometimes we just can't show that. But a lot of people want a resolution, they want this to end so right now we kind of implement the spiritual element to things. Bottom line is that it works. But I think a lot of people were hoping for another more science-minded show — and they're very verbal. They want, you know, more of the science. They want to see more of this, more evidence, evidence, evidence. There's already shows out there that deal with that quite nicely. And there are episodes coming up... we do so much and they only show 22 minutes of that whole thing. We will do an entire scientific investigation and we even bring in scientists. Several times we brought in an actual consultant, we've had things to analyze... sometimes it makes the cut, sometimes it doesn't.
I've listened to the criticisms and what I enjoy about it is it shows how much people are discussing this show. It's, you know, a hot topic. I even read a blog post — someone who thinks this is the worst show on television, but he admits that he can't stop watching it. It's like, well, as long as they're watching it. Whether they like it or not, people are tuning in because they want to discuss it.











Comments (2)
It's too bad people aren't more open to different religions and ideas of things such as God. It really shows the rearing head of the prejudice beast in the world.
Posted by Brigid | June 24, 2008 12:29 PM
Posted on June 24, 2008 12:29
I appreciate the spiritual aspect that complements the science aspects of your investigations.
Posted by Erik | June 29, 2008 5:06 PM
Posted on June 29, 2008 17:06